LARG Monthly Meeting
October 20, 2012

The meeting was called to order by President Bryan Stephens, KG4UPR, at 8:45 am, Saturday, October 20, 2012, at the Leesburg Holy Trinity Lutheran Church at 605 West Market Street, Leesburg, VA. Pledge of Allegiance was recited.

New Members - Visitors:: All interested in Amateur Radio are welcome to attend our meetings, activities and on-the-air radio nets. Please feel free to contact any of our members for more information or visit our Announcements at K4LRG.ORG. You may wish to join via this eMail message our Yahoo eMail QST de K4LRG eReflector and stay abreast of happenings in Northern Virginia. It was nice meeting these folks today and hope you will join and participate with us.

Boyd Camak, W4DAW
Jonathan Heinlein, N4ERD
JB Anderson, WA4VVJ
Chris Hushak, WA1ZXX

Deanna Hushak, N4XLI

Elected Officers Present:

President, Bryan Stephens, KG4UPR
Vice President, Henry Weidman, K2BFY
Treasurer, Denny Boehler, KF4TJI
Secretary, Norm Styer, AI2C


Carol Boehler, KF4TJJ
Denny Boehler, KF4TJI
Rick Denny, KR9D
Paul Dluehosh, N4PD
Bill Fenn, N4TS
Chris Fristad, KT9N
Frank Gentges, K0BRA
Margaret Gentges, AI4UX
Jay Greeley, KI4UTB
Luther Guise, K5NOB
Earl Haussling, KF4UUX
Dick Maylott, W2YE
Rick Miller, AI1V
Chris Patton, W3CUM
Dave Putman, KE4S
Bill Robbins, KJ4VTH
Bob Rodriguez, KJ4NCG
Bryan Stephens, KG4UPR
Norm Styer, AI2C
Ken Sullivan, KJ4GYL
John Unger, W4AU
Henry Weidman, K2BFY
John Westerman, WB5ODJ

Passing of Bill Frisbie,  W3EMH. Silent Key Honors were conducted for Bill Frisbie - W3EMH who past September 22, 2012 with Henry - K2BFY and Norm - AI2C speaking.

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Following Posted To QST de K4LRG, September 23, 2012

Bill Frisbie, W3EMH, SK

My friend Bill died peacefully Saturday evening, at home under hospice care, after a multi-year battle with idiopathic interstitial lung disease. I visited him twice earlier this year and despite being on oxygen and having been beaten down by this harsh disease for so long, he was in good spirits as always. What a gentle, faithful and kind man Bill was.

He played a vital part in the Herndon Repeater Group (now DARG) over twenty or so years and also participated in many LARG events. His wife Elena asked me to inform the local clubs that he was involved with.

I will post again immediately, when I know of the arrangement date and times.

Mike White (N4PDY), Mike Rosati (N4FXP) and I will work with Elena to sort through Bill's equipment and arrange a sale in the coming months within her timing. I'll send details when I know more.

Regards, Craig (N4FSC)

Mr. William "Bill" Floyd Frisbie, Sr.

Date of Birth: Saturday, June 4th, 1938

Date of Death:Saturday, September 22nd, 2012

Funeral Home: Adams - Green Funeral Home

721 Elden Street
Herndon, Virginia, UNITED STATES


On September 22, 2012, William "Bill" Floyd Frisbie, Sr., of Sterling, Virginia, passed away peacefully at his home at the age of 74. Born on June 4, 1938, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he was the son of Charles and Elizabeth Frisbie. He is survived by his wife of 35 years, Elena Frisbie, and his 5 children: William Frisbie, Jr., and his wife Carol of Goshen, Indiana, daughter Susan Coty and Rudy Kovach of Mishawaka, Indiana, son David Frisbie of Indianapolis, Indiana, daughter Laura Frisbie and Cindy Blazier of Terre Haute, Indiana, and daughter Erica Frisbie of Arlington, Virginia. He is also survived by his sister, Jeanne Knauer of Rahns, Pennsylvania, two godchildren, eight grandchildren, two great-grandchildren, and four nieces and nephews.

Bill grew up in Rahns, Pennsylvania, graduating from Schwenksville High School in 1956. He attended the Indiana Institute of Technology and received an Engineering degree in 1960. He also pursued Masters studies at The Pennsylvania State University, but ultimately chose to begin his career overseas before completing his studies there. He worked for Philco Ford, first in Thailand, then Iran, England, Nigeria, Morocco, and Egypt. He spent the largest portion of his time abroad in Iran, living there for almost 10 years, and leaving on the penultimate evacuation flight preceding the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

He retired after 40 years of service to the company that was by then Lockheed Martin in 2001. Almost immediately, he went back to work (sans necktie) with AT&T Technical Services Company. "Phone Bill" spent 7 years there before retiring again in 2009.

Throughout his life, Bill was an avid amateur radio operator or "ham" as W3EMH. He operated worldwide and was active in the Amateur Radio Emergency Service, ARES, a group of hams who volunteer their qualifications and equipment for communications duty in the event of a disaster.

A person of high intelligence and integrity, Bill also struck people with his kindness, warmth, humor, and charm, and will be deeply missed.

General Announcements

O Henry Weidman - K2BFY announced that he would be assuming the duties of Assistant ARES EC for Eastern Loudoun County that were performed by Bill - W3EMH (SK). He would be visiting Karen at Landsdowne Hospital shortly to check on the Emergency Radio Room and equipment.

O Carol Boehler - KF4TJJ announced she was working with Open Arms Ministry who is looking for some training on amateur radio. She was looking for the some printed material on the Group's Activities..

O Henry Weidman - K2BFY reported that the Dulles Amateur Radio Club no longer holds official meeting.

August and September 2012 Meeting Minutes were approved as prepared by Bryan Stephens - KG4UPR and John Unger - W4AU, and posted to K4LRG.ORG.

October 2012 Treasurer's Report was approved as presented by Denny Boehler - KF4TJI and posted to K4LRG.ORG.


Public Service Committee. No Report.

Field Day Committee. Chris - KB3RUR has been selected as the 2013 LARG - K4LRG Field Day Chairman with assistance by Gary Quinn - NC4S.

Balloon Committee. Denny Boehler - KF4TJI reported he would put together an Ammo Box Fox Hunt in the coming months. Rick Miller - AI1V reported he is working with Tom Dawson - WB3AKD on a Balloon Package.

Training Committee. Bob - KJ4NXG reported training is scheduled for the Civil Air Patrol on Deceber18 at the Leesburg Armory with support from the Old Virginia Hams.. In addition, other technical training is scheduled for January 11,12 and 13, 2013 at the CFW Post 1177 in Leesburg. This will be followed by a VEC Session on January 22, 2013, a Tuesday evening at the Armory.

December 18, 2012

7:30 - 7:50 pm, Leesburg Armory.
Civil Air patrol meeting and "Mission kickoff"
Mark will assign reading in the ARRL Technician Class license study guide on "Basic Electricity, Signals and Waves".

January 11, 2013 (Friday)

7-9 pm, Leesburg VFW Hall
Session one

January 12, 2013 (Saturday)

10 am - 3 pm. Leesburg VFW Hall
Session two and three

January 13, 2013, (Sunday)

10:00 am - 12 noon, Leesburg VFW Hall
Session four

1:00 pm - 3:00 pm, Leesburg VFW Hall

Session five (final) January 22, 2013 (Tuesday)

7:00 pm, Leesburg Armory
Proposed Technician class exam date- (subject to VE approval).

Bob Rodriguez
[email protected]

Subject: Maker Space Presentation - Status report by Rick Miller - AI1V, October 19, 2012

Well, this has been a crazy month and I haven't made any progress on this.


Can you get one or two dates that we can target for the presentation? That way we can finalize who can participate, since most can only participate subject to possible conflicts.


You are receiving this email because you have expressed an interest in supporting this outreach presentation. The general approach I was thinking of taking would be to have a series of brief presentations, adding up to about an hour, followed by breakout conversations with folks that could bring examples of hardware and/or software that they use in ham radio. I would like each of you to either present, or set up and host a breakout area. Since this is a hardware/software experimenters' group, lots of equipment on display would be great.

Could each of you reply to this email with a topic that you could do a quick introductory presentation on (around 10 minutes), or an idea for a break-out area that you could put together without too much effort? I know that you all may have conflicts, but I'd like to get an idea of what we might have available.
There are two topics that I think have to be covered:

1. A brief history and description of the amateur service

2. The licensing process

If anyone would like to do those (in no more than 15 minutes total), let me know.

I can't make it to the meeting tomorrow, so this will have to serve as my report on this activity.

Thanks, Rick

Contest Committee
. John Unger - W4AU discussed a number of interesting items:

- HF Band Openings - big activity on 10-Meters.

- State QSO Parties: Iowa, New York, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

- October 27-28, 2012 CQ WW DX SSB Contest.

- ARRL SS - US and Canada in 2 weeks.

- November 6, 2012, Work All Europe - RTTY.

- New CQ WW Log Submission Deadline - 5 days after end of contest.

October 20 - 21, 2012 Jamboree On The Air - JOTA.

- PileUp Runner has been upgraded to Morse Runner that allows you to tune to different frequencies in the pileup to which you are listening. Very cool training and practice. Site is at .

- Randy - K5ZD will conduct a Webinar on new CQ WW Contest Rules. at 3 PM, Sunday, October 21, 2012. Go to .

Bouncing eMail Addresses. Norm Styer - AI2C reported the list of Bouncing eMail Addresses on QST de K4LRG Yahoo Reflector and asked members to review and indicate if any addresses are no longer in use. These would be deleted.

Elmering. Seeking a volunteer for Chairman and committee members. Please speak to Bryan Stephens - KG4UPR.

LARG Legislative Affairs Committee. Chris Patton - W3CUM reported on new rules for license reinstatement, adjacent frequency interference. Norm Styer - AI2C passed around the summary of FCC action on examining role of Amateur Radio Report to Congress.

FCC Matters reported by Rick Miller - AI1V - October 20, 2012

I have a Marine Corps Marathon brief in the morning, so I can't make the LARG meeting. I have a couple of items of interest form the regulatory world:

Item 1:

FCC has released an NPRM that would require VE's to give credit to applicants that can prove they have held a license requiring that test element in the past. Coupled with that rule would be a shortening of the grace period after expiration to renew a license and to reduce the number of VE's required to administer a test.

Item 2:

The same law that required the FCC to conduct the study looking at the impacts of restrictive covenants on amateur service in emergencies, required another study. This second study is to be done by the GAO to look at the design and operation of radio devices 'so that reasonable use of adjacent spectrum does not excessively impair the functioning of such system.' This study was prompted by the LightSquared fiasco to see if anything can be done about receivers that cannot adequately protect themselves against strong signals outside the frequencies that they use. The GAO has created three questions to investigate:

(1) What tradeoffs exist to increasing spectrum efficiency through performance standards for receivers?

(2) To what extent has the private sector taken steps related to receiver standards to minimize interference with systems operating in nearby spectrum?

(3) To what extent have FCC and NTIA taken steps related to receiver standards to increase spectrum efficiency?

Rick's opinion:

Questions 2 & 3 can be answered by looking at the tag attached to most electronic equipment that states that this device 'must accept any interference that it receives.'

Question 1 is easy to answer: the tradeoff is price versus receiver adjacent channel performance. It's easy to figure out what most consumer electronics companies will do with that trade.

We'll see if my cynical view prevails as the study goes forward.

More info on these and other topics can be found at ARRL .org.

V/R Rick - AI1V

Following FROM FCC SITE:


Before the
Federal Communications Commission
Washington, D.C. 20554

In the Matter of

Modification and Clarification of Policies and Procedures Governing Siting and Maintenance of Amateur Radio Antennas and Support Structures, and Amendment of Section 97.15 of the Commission's Rules Governing the Amateur Radio Service



Adopted: December 18, 2001 Released: December 26, 2001

By the Commission:

1. The Commission has before it an Application for Review filed on December 15, 2000, by the American Radio Relay League (ARRL).1 ARRL requests review of the November 13, 2000, decision2 of the Deputy Chief, Wireless Telecommunications Bureau (Bureau), which partially granted ARRL's petition for clarification of the Commission's limited preemption policy of state and local regulation of the siting and maintenance of antennas and antenna support structures used by licensees in the Amateur Radio Service, but denied it in all other respects.3 Specifically, ARRL requests that we expand the Commission's limited preemption policy for antennas and antenna support structures used in the Amateur Radio Service to include covenants, conditions and restrictions (CC&Rs) contained in deeds, bylaws of homeowner associations (HOA) or regulations of an architectural control committee (ACC). Based on the record in this proceeding, we find no basis to reverse the Bureau's decision. Accordingly, ARRL's Application for Review is denied.


2. In a Memorandum Opinion and Order, adopted September 16, 1985 (PRB-1), the Commission established a policy of limited preemption of state and local regulations governing amateur station facilities, including antennas and support structures.4 In that proceeding, the Commission expressly decided not to extend its limited preemption policy to CC&Rs in home ownership deeds and in condominium bylaws because '[s]uch agreements are voluntarily entered into by the buyer or tenant when the agreement is executed and do not usually concern the Commission.'5

3. On February 7, 1996, ARRL filed a petition for rule making seeking a review of the Commission's limited preemption policy and an expansion of the policy to include CC&Rs in private covenants.6 In an Order, released November 19, 1999, the Deputy Chief, Wireless Telecommunications Bureau, denied the petition for rule making on the grounds that specific rule provisions bringing private restrictive covenants within the scope of PRB-1 were neither necessary nor appropriate.7 On December 20, 1999, ARRL filed a petition for reconsideration of the Bureau's decision; the Gorodetzers filed a petition for reconsideration on December 17, 1999. On November 13, 2000, the Bureau denied both petitions insofar as they had requested bringing CC&Rs within the scope of PRB-1.8


4. ARRL believes that the Commission policy set forth in PRB-1 is discriminatory because it does not encompass private covenants.9 Further, it appears that ARRL assumes that the only reason the Commission did not extend PRB-1 to CC&Rs in 1985 was that 'the Commission believed it did not have the authority to preempt private agreements . . .'10 ARRL goes on to argue, based upon the Commission's actions with respect to over the air reception devices (OTARDs) that the Commission in fact has jurisdiction to preempt CC&Rs.11 As a result, it asks the Commission to require that private covenants found in deeds, HOA bylaws and ACC regulations state that amateur communications and antennas are subject to the Commission's limited preemption policy, as expressed in the contexts of 'reasonable accommodation' and 'minimum practicable regulation of amateur antennas and support structures.12

5. We recognize that the Amateur Radio service is a voluntary, noncommercial communication service that plays an important role in providing emergency communications. Moreover, the amateur radio service provides a reservoir of trained operators, technicians and electronic experts who can be called on in times of national or local emergencies. By its nature, the Amateur Radio Service also provides the opportunity for individual operators to further international goodwill. Accordingly, we agree with ARRL that there is a strong federal interest in promoting amateur radio communications.13 However, we believe that PRB-1 adequately protects that predominant federal interest from regulations that would frustrate the important purposes of the Amateur Radio Service,14 by preempting state and local regulations that preclude amateur communications in their communities.

6. We disagree with ARRL's analysis in that PRB-1 did not base the decision to exclude CC&Rs from the Commission's preemption policy upon the Commission's jurisdiction, or lack thereof. Rather, the Commission's decision was premised upon the fundamental difference between state and local regulations, with which an amateur operator must comply, and CC&Rs, which are the product of a voluntary agreement involving the amateur operator. ARRL argues that whether CC&Rs are 'voluntary' is 'irrelevant . . . to whether the municipality is violating Federal communications policy.'15 While we agree that the voluntary nature of CC&Rs do not always preclude preemption,16 we believe it is a relevant factor in preemption analysis. In OTARD, for example, there was a strong statutory policy against restrictions that impaired a viewer's ability to receive over the air video services. Here, there has not been a sufficient showing that CC&Rs prevent amateur radio operators from pursuing the basis and purpose of the amateur service.17 In this regard, we note that there are other methods amateur radio operators can use to transmit amateur service communications that do not require an antenna installation at their residence. These methods include, among other things, operation of the station at a location other than their residence, mobile operations, and use of a club station.

7. ARRL argues, 'The private contractual nature of covenants was, however, shown not to be a limiting factor in the OTARD decision. It cannot, therefore, in the context of PRB-1 serve as a justification for the arbitrary and disparate treatment of radio amateurs similarly situated, save for the source of the land use regulations applicable to their residential station locations.'18 We believe the OTARD decision does not support ARRL's request because the decision to preempt restrictions on OTARDs was based upon significant policy objectives that are not present in this case, and which could not be adequately accomplished without the Commission's intervention. Indeed, the Commission does not exercise its preemption power lightly,19 and employs this power only as necessary to carry out the provisions of the Communications Act. The OTARD rule '[was] designed to promote two complementary federal objectives: (a) to ensure that consumers have access to a broad range of video programming services, and (b) to foster full and fair competition among different types of video programming services.20 The Commission concluded that preemption was necessary in order to meet those objectives. Thereafter, the Commission extended the OTARD protections to antennas used to transmit or receive fixed wireless signals to further one of the primary goals of the 1996 Communications Act, which is to promote telecommunications competition and encourage the commercial deployment of new telecommunications technologies.21 In contrast, none of these objectives applies to the Amateur Radio Service, which is a voluntary noncommercial service.22 Furthermore, ARRL has not demonstrated that private covenants have a substantial impact on the ability of amateurs to fulfill the fundamental purposes of the Amateur Radio Service set forth in Section 97.1 of the Commission's Rules.23 Thus, we conclude that, in the instant case, while preemption is appropriate with respect to state and local regulations, it is not similarly appropriate with respect to CC&Rs.

8. ARRL also objects to the Bureau's reliance upon the fact that some amateur antennas can be much larger than OTARDs.24 ARRL characterizes the examples of different types of antennas given in the Bureau's Recon Order as 'incendiary references' to exceptional types of amateur antennas that do not reflect what would be permitted by PRB-1 in densely-populated residential areas.25 While we do not believe that the size of the antennas is a decisional difference, in our view, the Bureau's reliance upon the distinctions in antenna size between amateur antennas and OTARDs was reasonably based on legitimate policy considerations. In PRB-1, the Commission explicitly discussed the interests HOAs and ACCs had in imposing 'restrictions and limitations on the location and height of antennas.'26 We believe that in using examples of antenna configurations and arrays, the Bureau merely amplified what was already alluded to in PRB-1, as originally adopted. Thus, we find that no new ground was broken in the Bureau's Recon Order. We note that ARRL is proposing a policy of reasonable accommodation, as opposed to the total preemption imposed in the OTARD proceeding.27 Nonetheless, given the great variance in the size and configuration of amateur antennas, we are concerned that such a policy would be considerably more complicated for HOAs and ACCs to administer. Finally, we note that ARRL has submitted no specific evidence that would persuade us to abandon our long-standing policy of excluding CC&Rs in private covenants from our ruling in PRB-1. We recognize the importance of preserving the integrity of contractual relations. We are therefore reluctant to pre-empt private parties' freedom of contract unless it is shown that private agreements will seriously disrupt the federal regulatory scheme or unless there is another strong countervailing reason to do so, a showing that has not been made here. However, should Congress see fit to enact a statutory directive mandating the expansion of our reasonable accommodation policy, the Commission would expeditiously act to fulfill its obligation thereunder.


9. Accordingly, for the reasons discussed above, we conclude that the Bureau's denial of the subject petitions for reconsideration, insofar as they pertain to inclusion of CC&Rs in private covenants, was correct and should be affirmed. Therefore, the scope of the limited preemption policy of PRB-1 for amateur radio stations remains applicable only to regulations of state, county, municipal and other local governing bodies, and is not applicable to HOA bylaws and ACC regulations.

10. ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to the authority of Section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. † 154(i), and Section 1.115 of the Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. † 1.115, that the Application for Review filed by The American Radio Relay League on December 15, 2000, IS DENIED.

11. IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to the authority of Section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. † 154(i), and Section 1.115 of the Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. † 1.115, that the Application for Review filed by Barry Gorodetzer and Kathy Conard-Gorodetzer on January 3, 2001, IS DISMISSED.


Magalie Roman Salas

Secretary v

1 Application for Review (filed Dec. 15, 2000) (ARRL AFR).

2 Modification and Clarification of Policies and Procedures Governing Siting and Maintenance of Amateur Radio Antenna and Support Structures, and Amendment of Section 97.15 of the Commission's Rules Governing the Amateur Radio Service, Order on Reconsideration, 15 FCC Rcd 22151 (2000) (Recon Order). In a related matter, on January 3, 2001, Barry Gorodetzer and Kathy Conard-Gorodetzer filed a letter seeking Commission review of the Recon Order (Gorodetzer AFR). Section 1.115(d) of the Commission's Rules requires that applications for review of actions pursuant to delegated authority be filed within 30 days of public notice of the action. In this case, public notice of the Recon Order was given on November 13, 2000, the release date. See 47 C.F.R. † 1.4(b)(2). The Gorodetzer AFR is untimely because it was filed more than 30 days after public notice of the Recon Order was given. The Gorodetzers also failed to seek a waiver or extension of the deadline to file an application for review. Accordingly, we will dismiss the Gorodetzer AFR.

3 Recon Order at 5 ¶ 11. 4 See Federal Preemption of State and Local Regulations Pertaining to Amateur Radio Facilities, Memorandum Opinion and Order, PRB-1, 101 FCC 2d 952 (1985) (PRB-1).

5 Id. at 960 n.6.

6 ARRL Petition for Rule Making, filed Feb. 7, 1996.

7 Modification and Clarification of Policies and Procedures Governing Siting and Maintenance of Amateur Radio Antennas and Support Structures, and Amendment of Section 97.15 of the Commission's Rules Governing the Amateur Radio Service, Order, 14 FCC Rcd 19413, 19415 ¶ 6, 19417 ¶ 11 (1999).

8 Recon Order at 5 ¶ 11.

9 ARRL AFR at 5.

10 Id. at 11 (emphasis in original).

11 Id. at 7-8.

12 Id. at 10.

13 Id. at 9.

14 PRB-1, 101 FCC 2d at 959-60 ¶¶ 23-24.

15 ARRL AFR at 15.vv 16 See In the Matter of Promotion of Competitive Networks in Local Telecommunications, First Report and Order and Further Notice of Proposed Rule Making in WT Docket No. 99-217, Fifth Report and Order and Memorandum Opinion and Order in CC Docket No. 96-98, and Fourth Report and Order and Memorandum Opinion and Order in CC Docket No. 88-57, FCC 00-366, 15 FCC Rcd 22983 (2000) (Competitive Networks Fixed Wireless Order).vv 17 See infra n.23.

18 Id. at 19.

19 See Gregory v. Ashcroft, 501 U.S. 452, 460 (1991) (opining that courts must assume that Congress does not exercise the power to preempt lightly). 20 Preemption of Local Zoning Regulation of Satellite Earth Stations, Report and Order, Memorandum Opinion and Order, and Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, 11 FCC Rcd 19276, 19281 ¶ 6 (1996).v

21 See Competitive Networks Fixed Wireless Order, 15 FCC Rcd at 23028.

22 See 47 C.F.R. † 97.1(a).

23 The fundamental purposes of the Amateur Radio Service are expressed in the following principles: (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications; (b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art; (c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art; (d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts; and (e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill. See 47 C.F.R. † 97.1.

24 ARRL AFR at 11-12.

25 Id. at 12.

26 See PRB-1 at 955 ¶ 9.

27 ARRL AFR at 11-12.


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Federal Communications Commission FCC 01-372



Federal Communications Commission FCC 01-372

LARG 2012 Holiday Dinner. Carol Boehler - KF4TJJ announced the 2012 LARG Holiday Dinner will be held on Saturday, December 8, 2012, at the Hamilton Safety Center. This will again be a potluck dinner. No beverage licence is necessary since we don't sell and it's a private affair - no public. The Door Prizes this year is an alternative to $500 of radios, and will be a "White Elephant" Radio or Non-Radio Related Gift Exchange. Bring something worth no more than $20.00.. Look for more details shortly. John Unger reported the fee for the hall would be about $375.00

Program Committee. Henry Weidman - K2BFY reported that next month's program will be presented by Bill Fenn - N4TS on Meshed Networks.


Sunday Night FM Net. Bryan (KG4UPR) reported good participation.

Sunday Digital Net. Bryan (KG4UPR) reported a continuing lull in activity for the digital net.

Tuesday Night CW Net. It is reported that activity has picked up.

Thursday Night HF SSB Net. Participation is great for 75 meters. Thanks for all the super NCSs.


W4DLS Repeater. Frank (KØBRA) advised that maintenance actions are pending to address the prolonged squelch tail on the 145.31 repeater..

WA4TXE Repeater. No report.

KiloWatt Power Meter. John Unger - W4AU demonstrated his KiloWatt Meter by P3. It measures current, power factor, frequency and will record values. It plugs into a wall outlet than you plug you operating unit into the meter. He showed Model P4460 P3 KiloWatt EZ.



JB Anderson, WA4VVY, of Leesburg, representing the Leesburg Fire Department, spoke to the group about his plans to establish an emergency shelter in the old fire station site in Leesburg. He spoke for an hour and covered many aspects of emergency support and communications. He plans to hold an initial meeting soon and is looking for a point of contact from LARG to assist in establishing and operating emergency communication equipment. Members discussed the many emergency actions that LARG and Loudoun ARES has been involved in and many indicated they could see where the Group could support this requirement. Several asked that the requirements be clearly worked out in advance.

Bryan Stephen - KG4UPR indicated that we would be getting back to JB Anderson in an appropriate point of contact.

The planned presentation by Henry Weidman - K2BFY on his 2-Meter Ammo Can Rig was postponed until the November 2012 meeting.

The meeting adjourned at approximately 10:56 am.

Respectfully Submitted, Norm Styer - AI2C


A reminder to all about Holy Trinity's inclement weather policy: if Loudoun County Schools are closed (or would be if it were a school day), all activities at the church are cancelled - this includes outside groups. This policy allows for parking lot clearing so snow is not packed down; and it is also a safety issue.